AC: Paul, its fair to say that youre something of a movie maverick arent you? PV: Well thats what they say about me, isnt it? But to me personally, I dont consider myself to be a maverick. What I am doing with the movies I make is just to try and to push things a little bit. Lets say that there are boundaries put up right? Ill try and move those boundaries a little. Just doing the same old stuff would bore me to tears wouldnt it? AC: You grew up in Amsterdam in the Sixties. Would you say that has had much of an influence on your work? PV: Well obviously there was a lot of stuff happening around that time. Hard sex and soft drugs, you know? Free love was all around. Unless you were really unlucky and had to pay for it. So I suppose that I probably have a more liberal outlook then say, George W Bush, isnt it? But then again so do most people. AC: You made your first few films in Holland didnt you? PV: Thats right. Yeah, my first film was called Graff van der Luunde und Wuunden Duulipen. AC: And what does that mean in English? PV: Angst. That film caused a lot of fuss. Most cinemas were refusing to show it. AC: Was that because it contained a lot of violence or nudity? PV: No. The title was too long to fit on the billboards outside the cinema. The film that really made people sit up and take notice of me as a director was Schleerm which roughly translated means "Orgy of Blood, Violence and Just Life in General Really". It was banned in thirteen countries. AC: Why was it banned? PV: Well it was a zombie movie you see, isnt it? So theres Rutger Hauer and hes doing killing to all the zombies. Did I mention they were nude female zombies? From Mars? There was a good reason for them being nude but I cant remember what it was now. AC: I believe it may have been because cosmic rays had dissolved the clothes of every woman on Earth. PV: Thats it. People criticise me for being gratuitous but its all very carefully worked out, isnt it? In my movies everything happens for a reason. AC: Which brings us neatly on to Sharon Stones infamous scene in Crude Instinct
PV: Exactly! Here again people get this wrong all the time. They say that Im exploiting women with this scene. Thats the load of a cock, ok? AC: Just in case anybody is unfamiliar with the scene in question can you briefly describe what happens in it? PV: Okay. So, Sharon Stone plays this writer of dirty books who is accused of murdering her lover with an ice pick. She is being interrogated by the cops, isnt it? So I needed a way to show that she is in control of the situation and that she is using her sexuality to her advantage. AC: And how did you do that? PV: Halfway through the interrogation she rubs ice cream over her naked breasts. AC: And you dont find that at all exploitative? PV: No. AC: Even though Feminist Monthly that month carried a cover that consisted solely of a poster for Crude Instinct with the single word "Exploitative" underneath? PV: Magazines are forgotten by next week, isnt it? AC: And the Feminist Alliance of America picketed every cinema showing the film. PV: I think that protest was about another movie. It was a coincidence. AC: They were carrying placards which read, "Paul Verhervervint is a Git". PV: Those feminist chicks! They crack me up! AC: Theres a story about you that every time you film a nude scene you insist on being nude yourself. Is that true? PV: Sure its true. If Im making my actors take off their clothes then its only fair that I should do it too. I would make the rest of the crew go naked as well but frankly most of them look bad enough with their clothes on. You really wouldnt want to see more then you absolutely have to. AC: I want to turn now to Cybocop. Again that has been very heavily criticised for the amount of violence it contains. In fact, it can only be seen in this country in a severely edited form. I presume you still stand by that level of violence? PV: Balls. AC: I dont think theres any need for abuse, Paul. PV: No. No. Balls. Thats what the movie is about. Balls. AC: How is a film about a six foot six robot policeman about balls? PV: You see he didnt start out as a robot. He was a policeman who was gunned down so naturally they transplant his head onto a robot body to keep him alive and turn him into Cybocop. But the thing they forgot was his balls, isnt it? He thought with his balls. They controlled his instincts. "Do I shoot the criminals? What are my balls telling me?" That was how he operated. Without them hes just a big toaster with a gun, isnt he? AC: That doesnt really answer my question about the level of violence though does it? PV: Youd be being pretty pissed off without your balls, right? People question my work all the time. I dont make movies for other people. I dont think about the audience when I make a movie. Im thinking about a much more important person then them. AC: And who is that? PV: My bank manager. AC: Paul Verhervervint, Thank you. |